Japanese grammar

What does ~だの~だの mean? Japanese grammar N1

~だの~だの means and so on; and what not (listing with a complaining tone).

Quick facts
Level (estimated, JLPT framework)N1
StructureN + だの + N + だの
普通形 + だの + 普通形 + だの
Romajidano dano
Meaningand so on; and what not (listing with a complaining tone)

Forming it

Noun服 + だの + 化粧品 + だの
Verb/Adjective (plain form)高い + だの + まずい + だの

How to use it

Lists a few representative examples with a CRITICAL/annoyed nuance. Colloquial.

  • 「~だの~だの」 lists a few representative things, with an ANNOYED/critical nuance: "what with..., and...".
  • Different from 「~とか~とか」 (a neutral listing): 「だの」 almost always carries a complaining tone.
  • Usually ends with 「~と言う/~と文句を言う」 or a complaint.

Examples

  • She spends too much on clothes, cosmetics, and the like.

  • My son does nothing but complain — too expensive, too cramped, and so on.

Keep in mind

  • Colloquial, not used in formal writing.
  • Attaches directly to a noun or the plain form.

Common mistakes

  • Wrongご出席(しゅっせき)は本日(ほんじつ)だの明日(あした)だのにお願(ねが)いします。

    Please attend either today or tomorrow.

    Correctご出席(しゅっせき)は本日(ほんじつ)か明日(あした)でお願(ねが)いします。

    「だの」 carries a critical/colloquial tone — it's not used in a polite, formal sentence.

  • Wrong果物(くだもの)はりんごだの好(す)きです。

    As for fruit, I like apples, mandarins, and the like.

    Correct果物(くだもの)はりんごだのみかんだのが好(す)きです。

    「だの」 must come in a PAIR (at least two items listed).

Exam tips

  • 「だの~だの」 = what with...and... (critical, colloquial); comes in pairs, different from the neutral 「とか」.

Related patterns

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